Suggestions to Address Slow/Glitchy V7 Motivewave Performance?

[Merc]

Hi good folks,

My Set-Up:

• Daytrading the ES at the CME from Europe. I keep the following desktops open at all times: the Monthly, weekly, daily, hourly, 5 minute and my 1-minute entry.
• Rithmic data feed with MBO. I've been using the Chicago Gateway. There's one for Europe and Frankfurt; while I'm in Europe, I haven't tried these.
• Studies on the 1-minute Desktop: Cumulative Delta, Volume Profile, 2 variations of Big Trades, the 200SMA, Market Exchanges, Gap Detector, and Swing Detector.
• Studies on the other desktops: the 200SMA, Volume Profile, Market Exchanges, Gap Detector, and Swing Detector.
• Macbook Pro 21-inch. 64 gigs of RAM. 4T hard drive (3.5g available). Internet Connection: ethernet with 920mbps down and 865mbps up.
• Live Tick History is set to 100,000. I don't use the DOM, but the DOM tick history is set to to 5,000.
• The app is using over 62% of the CPU; 5.42 gigs of the 64 gig RAM.

The Issue:

• While Motivewave has always felt slow compared to other platforms (I've tried the major chart apps and recently migrated to MW from Tradingview), my charts seem to be lagging more than usual.
• The Cumulative Delta study takes a long time to load, and sometimes freezes or resets its scaling.
• Scaling is really slow and stuttering.
• The cursor lags inches behind the mouse movement. When I go to hover over a chart bar, the cursor is inches behind it.
• I can work with it, but it feels like I'm trying to parallel park a Sherman tank at a crowded mall.
• Wondering if the Live Tick History has anything to do with it. I need to see indications of absorption and exhaustion throughout the day; so long as the historical data isn't a repaint and will throw off the signals as expected, I'm happy to shrink the Live Tick History. I noticed that the Cumulative Delta study loads way faster when I do.

Many thanks in advance for any guidance!

 

[Merc]

Hi good folks,

My Set-Up:

• Daytrading the ES at the CME from Europe. I keep the following desktops open at all times: the Monthly, weekly, daily, hourly, 5 minute and my 1-minute entry.
• Rithmic data feed with MBO. I've been using the Chicago Gateway. There's one for Europe and Frankfurt; while I'm in Europe, I haven't tried these.
• Studies on the 1-minute Desktop: Cumulative Delta, Volume Profile, 2 variations of Big Trades, the 200SMA, Market Exchanges, Gap Detector, and Swing Detector.
• Studies on the other desktops: the 200SMA, Volume Profile, Market Exchanges, Gap Detector, and Swing Detector.
• Macbook Pro 21-inch. 64 gigs of RAM. 4T hard drive (3.5g available). Internet Connection: ethernet with 920mbps down and 865mbps up.
• Live Tick History is set to 100,000. I don't use the DOM, but the DOM tick history is set to to 5,000.
• The app is using over 62% of the CPU; 5.42 gigs of the 64 gig RAM.

The Issue:

• While Motivewave has always felt slow compared to other platforms (I've tried the major chart apps and recently migrated to MW from Tradingview), my charts seem to be lagging more than usual.
• The Cumulative Delta study takes a long time to load, and sometimes freezes or resets its scaling.
• Scaling is really slow and stuttering.
• The cursor lags inches behind the mouse movement. When I go to hover over a chart bar, the cursor is inches behind it.
• I can work with it, but it feels like I'm trying to parallel park a Sherman tank at a crowded mall.
• Wondering if the Live Tick History has anything to do with it. I need to see indications of absorption and exhaustion throughout the day; so long as the historical data isn't a repaint and will throw off the signals as expected, I'm happy to shrink the Live Tick History. I noticed that the Cumulative Delta study loads way faster when I do.

Many thanks in advance for any guidance!

Update: I think the Live Tick History is the culprit. I dropped it down to 10,000 from 100,000 and the difference is like night and day, experience-wise.

Also, the CPU usage cut down from over 62% to between 30%-35%. RAM usage was cut in half.

I looked to see whether I should be logging into through a different Rithmic gateway, closer to my physical location, but my broker only works with the one in Chicago, so that's out.

If anyone has any further guidance, I'm all ears; in the meantime, I'm super happy with the improved performance at this point...

 

[Donovan2580]

Update: I think the Live Tick History is the culprit. I dropped it down to 10,000 from 100,000 and the difference is like night and day, experience-wise.

Also, the CPU usage cut down from over 62% to between 30%-35%. RAM usage was cut in half.

I looked to see whether I should be logging into through a different Rithmic gateway, closer to my physical location, but my broker only works with the one in Chicago, so that's out.

If anyone has any further guidance, I'm all ears; in the meantime, I'm super happy with the improved performance at this point...

Is there a reason you are using MW7 instead of the older, stable version?? I know that MW7 is still in Beta and therefore you might be running into problems just because of that. There are a lot of bugs and they are still in the process of working them out. I would suggest using 6.9.12 until MW7 isn't a "Beta" version. The workspaces are not backwards compatible, so you'll need to start fresh.

I am an Orderflow / Market Profile trader (ES & NQ), so I look at footprints, volume profiles, etc. I have never adjusted the "Live Tick History" setting. The studies will go back and load what you need as long as the studies are configured correctly.

You will see this setting in a lot of the studies:



Make sure it is UNCHECKED and it will load the necessary tick data. If that box is checked, it will load a lot faster, but it gives you an "estimation" based on time based bars, not real tick data.

Just for reference, here are the settings I am using and everything works great. I am running MW Pro Version with 2 desktops across 3 monitors and CPU / RAM usage is totally reasonable (10-15% of my overall resources on my Windows machine that is a few years old).

Also FWIW -

I don't have the Auto Save checked, so I am not sure how much that is effecting you. I use the Auto Backup feature instead (Preferences > Backup).

 

[Merc]

Many, many thanks for your kindness and generosity in taking time out of your day to offer your seasoned guidance to a newcomer to Motivewave; I'm deeply grateful!

Is there a reason you are using MW7 instead of the older, stable version?

The honest answer is that while I was underwhelmed by the trial I undertook last year on version 6, the youtube tour of version 7 got me excited, largely because the UI and the controls had a more elegant look that made the transition from Tradingview to Motivewave feel less daunting. So I downloaded the trial version of 7 and put it through all of its paces over the course of a week before I pulled the trigger. I knew it was in beta, but it felt workable at the time. A few glitches that I missed have since come up (e.g., the templates for the studies don't save and often revert to their default settings), but the tech team has been admirably responsive and candid about whether something is a bug that will sooner or later get hunted down vs. something that's a feature (or absence of one).

Re "Use Historical Minute Bars": This was like pure gold to me; I can't thank you enough for this. I went through all the studies that I use and sure enough that box was checked on the Volume Profiles. What a difference. Thank you so very much!

Also amazing was the kind extension of generosity you demonstrated by sharing your settings; given that we both trade the ES, it felt super reassuring to see that little or nothing is lost by narrowing the live tick history. I had taken screenshots of the charts between a setting of 10,000 vs. 100,000 and saw no visible difference, but it was the prospect of what I can't see that concerned me. So your generosity on this point, once again, was gold!

About Auto-Save: I do use it, alongside the auto back-up. Due to some odd behavior I've experience with the beta, I found it prudent to save my analyses from time to time: but a manual save produced problems that are part of the beta, so I put the auto-save into action at 300 second intervals.

Once again, I am deeply touched and extremely grateful for your kindness and generosity. In the future I'll deep deeper into the platform so as not to waste anyone's time in the forum!

 

[Donovan2580]

Many, many thanks for your kindness and generosity in taking time out of your day to offer your seasoned guidance to a newcomer to Motivewave; I'm deeply grateful!


The honest answer is that while I was underwhelmed by the trial I undertook last year on version 6, the youtube tour of version 7 got me excited, largely because the UI and the controls had a more elegant look that made the transition from Tradingview to Motivewave feel less daunting. So I downloaded the trial version of 7 and put it through all of its paces over the course of a week before I pulled the trigger. I knew it was in beta, but it felt workable at the time. A few glitches that I missed have since come up (e.g., the templates for the studies don't save and often revert to their default settings), but the tech team has been admirably responsive and candid about whether something is a bug that will sooner or later get hunted down vs. something that's a feature (or absence of one).

Re "Use Historical Minute Bars": This was like pure gold to me; I can't thank you enough for this. I went through all the studies that I use and sure enough that box was checked on the Volume Profiles. What a difference. Thank you so very much!

Also amazing was the kind extension of generosity you demonstrated by sharing your settings; given that we both trade the ES, it felt super reassuring to see that little or nothing is lost by narrowing the live tick history. I had taken screenshots of the charts between a setting of 10,000 vs. 100,000 and saw no visible difference, but it was the prospect of what I can't see that concerned me. So your generosity on this point, once again, was gold!

About Auto-Save: I do use it, alongside the auto back-up. Due to some odd behavior I've experience with the beta, I found it prudent to save my analyses from time to time: but a manual save produced problems that are part of the beta, so I put the auto-save into action at 300 second intervals.

Once again, I am deeply touched and extremely grateful for your kindness and generosity. In the future I'll deep deeper into the platform so as not to waste anyone's time in the forum!

Appreciate the kind words!! You didn't waste anyone's time

You had some valid questions & I am happy I was able to help!