7Beta2

[igor.s]

It seems the "Seconds" timeframe is not supported anymore. Still see the same UI bugs discovered in 7b1.

cheers.

 

[GAi]

It seems the "Seconds" timeframe is not supported anymore. Still see the same UI bugs discovered in 7b1.

cheers.

Thanks Igor for the insight!

 

[Vlad]

Before i try again (will likely go the VM route this time), I’m a bit concerned by rithmic performance in B1. Has anyone tried their legacy rithmic, now called Rithmic Gateway, in v7? If so, 1) is it faster than the new web API rithmic? 2) does it support multiple simultaneous rithmic connections in the same fashion?

 

[Vlad]

Installed on Windows Sandbox today, and the key issues for me seem fixed. The only real concern is rithmic webAPI performance. Had very bad latency and frequent freezing during today's power hour. Not sure if it's Motivewave or particular prop's server issue. Will try to do more testing with different feeds, including production rithmic. Rithmic Gateway seems to allow multiple connections, so if the stability issue is caused by WebAPI, that would be a good workaround.

 

[Vlad]

It seems the "Seconds" timeframe is not supported anymore. Still see the same UI bugs discovered in 7b1.

cheers.

I see seconds and milliseconds alright.

 

[igor.s]

I see seconds and milliseconds alright.

Odd. Settings->Chart->Bar Size Selector->Add Bar Size - I see no Seconds interval type in the dropdown menu. Where do you see that?

 

[Vlad]

This is what I'm getting. Are you on Beta v2?

 

[igor.s]

Yes. I tested it on a Linux machine. Should not be a difference but who knows, could be a Beta version miracle. I could try on Mac.

 

[GAi]

Odd. Settings->Chart->Bar Size Selector->Add Bar Size - I see no Seconds interval type in the dropdown menu. Where do you see that?

Hi Igor! I’m able to see seconds and milliseconds intervals from the Bar size selector in the Toolbar area as well on may Mac!

 

[Vlad]

Did the new "Add Study" toolbar button disappear for anyone else (with Favorites etc)? The only way for me rn is to go through menu Study. No toolbar button, no context menu

 

[GAi]

Did the new "Add Study" toolbar button disappear for anyone else (with Favorites etc)? The only way for me rn is to go through menu Study. No toolbar button, no context menu

Hi Vlad!
I’m not sure if you’re referring to this one, but I’m able to add it back to my toolbar area from: Settings-ToolBar-Toolbar- Top (under the Toolbar selector)

 

[Vlad]

Hi Vlad!
I’m not sure if you’re referring to this one, but I’m able to add it back to my toolbar area from: Settings-ToolBar-Toolbar- Top (under the Toolbar selector)

GAi, thank you!
Yes that's it! Main toolbar in Beta2 certainly looks more like v6 than like what we saw in the demo (edit: or perhaps it was overriden during the conversion of v6 workspace from a backup). Also, while looking at this, I just realized, my Toolbar 2 only shows on secondary desktops, but not on the main console. Is this as designed?

 

[GAi]

GAi, thank you!
Yes that's it! Main toolbar in Beta2 certainly looks more like v6 than like what we saw in the demo (edit: or perhaps it was overriden during the conversion of v6 workspace from a backup). Also, while looking at this, I just realized, my Toolbar 2 only shows on secondary desktops, but not on the main console. Is this as designed?

You’re very welcome Vlad! I’m glad I was able to help.

Mmm… that’s interesting I don’t normally use Toolbar 2 since I set all my tools needed under Toolbar 1

But I just went ahead and tested just to see and it looks like mine still remain under the main console… but then I’m also thinking maybe it’s because I’m only using one big Monitor…?lol

Not sure if you do use multiple monitors and if so and have your workspace windows spread out then maybe that could be why….?lol

And I just realized… were you also referring this New 7.0 Tools menu layout? If so then yes definitely still there under the tools dropdown on the upper top left side of the ToolBar menu area.

 

[igor.s]

Creating a brand new workspace could validate the idea that some old UI elements appear from the existing workspace import.

 

[Vlad]

Did some more testing of rithmic connection, multiple accounts and copy trader. My findings:
1. Rithmic webAPI unstable - quote feed freezes up during volatility (first ~15 min of RTH today). Reproduced on live ironbeam account as well as different props. Workaround - use Rithmic Gateway connection for quote feed (or other provider).
2. There can only be one Rithmic Gateway connection type per workspace, i.e. others need to be Rithmic webAPI (at least I couldn't make it work, getting some "OS error"). Topstep has their own farm, I assume it also uses webAPI as it didn't cause any conflicts
3. If you choose broker-specific connection type (e.g. "Ironbeam - Rithmic"), it chooses webAPI. To switch to legacy Rithmic Gateway, select instead generic "rithmic gateway" - it will work just fine with the credentials.
4. WebAPI is finicky:
4.1 worst case scenario - for one of my accounts, positions were not updating at all. I.e. limit was filled and disappeared, but position did not appear.
4.2 when 4.1 happened, the account balance also did not update at all - i.e. both cash and balance were empty. Was fixed by reshuffling accounts (removing and adding back in different order). So to avoid 4.1, at least make sure the balances show up, and then watch to orders to make sure you don't get phantom positions
4.3 even after balances started showing up, they wouldn't correctly reflect account pnl - balance would always change with cash balance after a trade

Caution - even if you use Rithmic Gateway or other provider for your quote feed, not sure if actual trade execution over other accounts using webAPI will suffer during the high-volatility hickups, didn't want to risk testing. Maybe will try with micros next time

 

[Donovan2580]

Did some more testing of rithmic connection, multiple accounts and copy trader. My findings:
1. Rithmic webAPI unstable - quote feed freezes up during volatility (first ~15 min of RTH today). Reproduced on live ironbeam account as well as different props. Workaround - use Rithmic Gateway connection for quote feed (or other provider).
2. There can only be one Rithmic Gateway connection type per workspace, i.e. others need to be Rithmic webAPI (at least I couldn't make it work, getting some "OS error"). Topstep has their own farm, I assume it also uses webAPI as it didn't cause any conflicts
3. If you choose broker-specific connection type (e.g. "Ironbeam - Rithmic"), it chooses webAPI. To switch to legacy Rithmic Gateway, select instead generic "rithmic gateway" - it will work just fine with the credentials.
4. WebAPI is finicky:
4.1 worst case scenario - for one of my accounts, positions were not updating at all. I.e. limit was filled and disappeared, but position did not appear.
4.2 when 4.1 happened, the account balance also did not update at all - i.e. both cash and balance were empty. Was fixed by reshuffling accounts (removing and adding back in different order). So to avoid 4.1, at least make sure the balances show up, and then watch to orders to make sure you don't get phantom positions
4.3 even after balances started showing up, they wouldn't correctly reflect account pnl - balance would always change with cash balance after a trade

Caution - even if you use Rithmic Gateway or other provider for your quote feed, not sure if actual trade execution over other accounts using webAPI will suffer during the high-volatility hickups, didn't want to risk testing. Maybe will try with micros next time

Oof - Thanks for the heads up on this! Did you pass this along to MW support? Really hoping they can iron out all the bugs on this.

 

[Vlad]

Oof - Thanks for the heads up on this! Did you pass this along to MW support? Really hoping they can iron out all the bugs on this.

Sure I did! Hoping for a wendys gift card from them as a token of appreciation

Edit: another workaround for account balancing not showing - instead of removing/adding back the accounts, simply disconnecting from the account with an issue via File menu, and then connecting back seems to work

 

[Vlad]

Just wanted to note that I fully switched to v7 now. The third update at a glance fixed the remaining annoyances - charts open up quickly, I no longer need to readjust DOM and T&S columns' widths every time I restart the app. Will see how performance is when the volume comes in tomorrow, but overall great turnaround on bug fixes from the dev team. Now let's hope they can get to work on our feature requests)

 

[GAi]

Just wanted to note that I fully switched to v7 now. The third update at a glance fixed the remaining annoyances - charts open up quickly, I no longer need to readjust DOM and T&S columns' widths every time I restart the app. Will see how performance is when the volume comes in tomorrow, but overall great turnaround on bug fixes from the dev team. Now let's hope they can get to work on our feature requests)

Thanks for sharing Vlad! I’m glad to hear that the features that you most rely on have been resolved in Beta3.

I also just downloaded version v7B3 and I see that majority of the issues I was experiencing with incorrect printing of Range Bar, Renko Bar and their Range Outline indicator not showing and along with the Support and Resistance drawings Tools inability to be able to adjust its height freely now all have been fixed!

I’ll continue to monitor it during full live Market session tomorrow, but in the meantime everything definitely seems to all coming together nicely!!

 

[feistritzersarah]

Is Beta3 now already stable enough to be used for production? Does anybody have some experience?