The better Elliott wave count!

EdwinJ

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The Elliott wave tools, study auto Elliott, auto-analyse, works better when the lowest point is found! The default is set to find a top but i experienced that it isn't doing well that way:sneaky:....
So use 'date' instead of bars, and seek for the lowest low in the chart, that's your starting date.
Ed
 
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The Elliott wave tools, study auto Elliott, auto-analyse, works better when the lowest point is found! The default is set to find a top but i experienced that it isn't doing well that way:sneaky:....
So use 'date' instead of bars, and seek for the lowest low in the chart, that's your starting date.
Ed
Could you be more specific? How exactly are you looking for the low point? On today’s daily chart, or on the weekly chart?
 
Hi Ed e.a.,
when conducting a »fully fledged« EW analysis, I start with a manually conducted analysis, using the drawing tools for the 5-wave impulse structure. at the very top level of the overall structure of the instrument. This analysis typically spans many years, sometimes even decades.
I have defined 5 different wave degrees as templates, each with a different wavel degree and diffrent colors of the lines and figures.

While drawing this first long-range count, I take advantage of the ratio-levels that MotiveWave prrovides (just go to a wavepoint and right click with your mouse).
As a rule of thumb (as a good starting point), I use the following ratio levels to be shown:

- Wave 2: 61.8% of wave 1
- Wave 3: 161.8% of wave 1 (added to wave 2)
- Wave 4: 38.2 % retracement of wave 3
- Wave 5: 61.8% of wave 1 + wave 3, added to Wave 4

Doing so gives me a first good indicator if I have chosen the correct turning points in the overal chart.

Coming back to your question:
I start the overall count at the lowest point in the past. And, I do trade (and thereby analyse) only instruments that show an overall bullish trend. I do not spent any time and investment money on stocks that are in a long term decline, anticipating that these may turn bullish sometimes - but this is just according to my favor.

Anyway, there is a BIG CAVEAT IN MOTIVEWAVE with both Elliot-Waves and Fib-Levels in general:

To be in line with the original definition by Mr. Elliot's regarding the wave length, the chart display MUST be set to semi-log.
The reason for doing so is that in the 1930ies and 1940ies stock analysts, such as Mr. Elliot, did their chart drawings on logarithmic paper.
And the Elliot-Wave theory is based on human psychology that itself relies on the visual impression by the fib-ratios.


Take look at this example:

(1) a stock value increase from USD 10 to USD 11 is a 10% increase in relative value and the same as
(2) a value increase from USD 1,000 to USD 1,100 (again, 10%)

When you apply a linear chart visualization mode the latter increase by USD 100 will visually appear far bigger than the tiny USD 1 increase.

But in EW-theory, both represent an increase by 10%
Overlooking this is one of the most common mistake when doing Elliot-Wave analysis, often leading to wrong results and people distrusting the EW-Theory in general.


TradingVew, for example, lets the user adjust the ratio-calculation for their fib-Levels for both linear and Log-charts.
Motive-Wave has implemented the pure EW-logic into the fiblevel calculation, requiring the chart to be in log-mode.

Unfortunately, this does also impact how their Auto-EW counting calculates wave lengths over larger stock movements (by more than one order of magnitude). Acually, I am in discussions with their user support to figure out if they need to do some adjustments with their Auto-EW calculation routines.

As a result, I use Auto-EW with some grain of salt for the time being.
 
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