I love MW but please consider hiring more devs

[thestephenromano]

AI should be writing exactly ZERO code at this point for something mission critical, which I would suggest MotiveWave is.

Documentation, yes. Unit tests, yes. Feature code, no.

AI is like a junior dev that needs constant baby sitting and review.

 

[MrSharky]

Every single time same e-mail.

"Could you please send over a copy of your backup workspace ( File menu > Backup) and five most recent log files ( Help menu > Log Files) ?"

For gods sake, just open a chart and put the study on, how difficult can it be, don't tell me every single bug is specific to my system.

So tired of this shit now.

 

[treetoplake]

Edge Clear data was not the problem. But I've gone back to Motive Wave 6. The latest 7 is completely unusable and unreliable for me. I may move to ATAS after I've completed the course material. But for now MW 6 has everything I need without learning a whole new package. I'm using chart patterns, levels, cumulative delta, daily volume profiles, TPO and of course the DOM for trading. That's enough to get my head around. Its a bit old school but a great adventure. Good luck everyone!

 

[treetoplake]

I understand. It would be nice if they would allow people to download 6.9.12 still - that this is pretty stable

I could post a link here but it may get removed. https://we.tl/t-bBqAtjMX4c .. but for now.

 

[jetski]

Today I decided to upgrade to MotiveWave 7.0.9, which was released yesterday, hoping for some post Thanksgiving miracle. Bad idea. Still incredibly buggy, still a mess.

In the installer, it doesn't let you choose which folder you want to install Motivewave so it literally replaced all the files/folder I had for MW 6.9.12. Thank goodness that I had a backup of my 6.9.12 workspace otherwise, I would be spending hours fixing everything.

In any case, MW 7 needs to completely and totally overhauled, scrap the entire project and start again without the vibe coding. There is no way someone loaded up MW 7 and said "yah--this is definitely an upgrade."

DO NOT UPGRADE to V7.

I've upgraded twice and downgraded twice. I've filed 3 bugs with Motivewave Support!!! only one was acknowledged and subsequently fixed. Support is slow, have a hard time reproducing bugs; fail to acknowledge bugs,

On a Mac with Apple Silicon:

1) The upgrade forces a beta Rhithmic API upgrade. This is a mistake because the new API does not work properly (which they acknowldge)! The fix is to create a new workspace with the old C++ API and restore a backup.

2) The Profit/Loss widget had a bug where the P/L calculation was not correct if you were cross trading ES (it still thought the instrument was ES), This was fixed in 7.0.6, but only after arguing with support (denied/could not reproduce the bug at first).

3) in V7.0.9 they introduced a new bug. The DOM Ask prices (on ES) are incorrect when using Rhithmic (the Rhithmic data is fine), but the the display of the Ask column is wrongly calculated/displayed wherever price has traveled. This is still outstanding.

I'm a software engineering veteran (35+ years in the business) and what I notice is that engineering releases software as if it's software as a service (SaaS) in the cloud; Assuming people will roll forward and stay there. This is simple wrong because support/engineering is not agile enough to find and fix bugs quickly.

MotiveWave MUST provide easy access to previous releases so that we can change back quickly when things fail. I was fortunate to have saved a v6.9.12 pkg file locally since it's not available on their website currently.

We, users, MUST HAVE release notes that detail ALL changes made in each release. As far as I can see, MotiveWave does not do that.

 

[MrSharky]

They release a half ass product, the support is substandard, they remove the only stable version from their homepage, they treat us as beta testers and dont even let us run 2 instances of the software so we could run 6 and 7 in conjunction. Its getting unacceptable. The product is getting deflated just as our investment in it.

 

[tecnition]

They release a half ass product, the support is substandard, they remove the only stable version from their homepage, they treat us as beta testers and dont even let us run 2 instances of the software so we could run 6 and 7 in conjunction. Its getting unacceptable. The product is getting deflated just as our investment in it.

Not letting you run 6 and 7 at the same time just feels so diabolically evil. Especially considering that this is people's livelihoods.

 

[Flemming Dqall]

same here with sierra (dated look) - I moved to motivewave from quanttower originally.

Why did you move over?

 

[tsahn808]

Can someone please recommend a platform? I'm on a mac and the ONLY reason i like Motivewave is because it is native to Mac with good orderflow in v6. But i'm getting tired of so many things of this platform even in v6.

 

[mikrom]

Why did you move over?

He mentioned it "seems to do everything but nothing well", which I agree with. I hit a wall pretty quickly when trying it and felt limited by the customization options. For ease of use and aesthetics it isn't too bad though, so depending on what kind of analysis you do it might be good enough. At this point, I would probably recommend it over MW.

However I hopped on the Sierra Chart train instead and decided to give it a proper try. I'm impressed by all the customization options, and it can be customized to look much better than it appears to be at first. As a big hotkey user I love that I can set hotkeys for almost anything, even to toggle lines on/off within my own studies. I haven't seen that in any other platform.

Can someone please recommend a platform? I'm on a mac and the ONLY reason i like Motivewave is because it is native to Mac with good orderflow in v6. But i'm getting tired of so many things of this platform even in v6.

There aren't many platforms that runs natively on mac or linux, unless you want to use a web based platform like TradingView, but for orderflow that's probably too limiting. Sierra can be run on mac/linux with Wine or similar software.

However what I did to run Quantower was to use Moonlight + Sunshine (it's made for streaming games over LAN but can be used for any program really). If you have a windows machine lying around somewhere you can try that.

This is my take on various platforms so far:

MotiveWave - Native linux/mac support, HUGE plus. Pretty good amount of customization options, but lots of weird quirks and bugs, as we all know. The management seem to have given up on it.
Quantower - Looks nice, fairly easy to use. Seems more stable than MW, but the customization options are a bit lacking for my taste.
Sierra Chart - Super stable and robust software. Huge amount of customization. The only real con seems to be the steep learning curve.
TradingView - Big no for orderflow. For candlestick traders only or new traders who want to start with something easy to use.

ATAS can be a great option too for orderflow, but it's lacking some stuff which is why I haven't bothered trying it.

 

[CV123]

I finally gave up on MW. Support is horrible and always the same excuse. I moved to Sierra and yes, there's a learning curve, but I've been able to duplicate almost everything and added some features that MW didn't have.

 

[fluffyhead]

I am gobsmacked at how bad MW7 is, if you draw a volume profile the POC is wrong, if you configure the profile to have high and low of the range you drew even that's wrong.. why is it so bad I don't get it? an order flow software and you can't even draw a volume profile and get the correct levels its absolutely insane, awful software.. only reason I still use it is because I have a Mac

 

[FP_Trades]

I would like to leave tradingview bc shit orderflow/laggy but no other platform is as easy and understandble as it, and has the options for indicators.

I been playing around with MW for a while i really like the Delta och volume profile on version 7.

 

[MrSharky]

I would like to leave tradingview bc shit orderflow/laggy but no other platform is as easy and understandble as it, and has the options for indicators.

I been playing around with MW for a while i really like the Delta och volume profile on version 7.

You get more or less same on version 6, its stable and no headache. Version 7 is dogshit, never thought I would have to say that about the platform I have been trading of for the last couple years.

 

[barker]

spending way too much time waiting for charts to load, 2 - 3 study per chart, changing time Frame on 1 of 2 top charts and waiting 10 mins+ in most cases, simple swap deviation weekly, also waiting, memory looks fine, lower right bar green, 7gb dedicated to memory and vram.